With training camp getting closer, questions still remain about the Heat at point guard
by David Dwork on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 AM EDT
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PrintWith Miami Heat training camp set to kick off just three short weeks away, there is a ‘calm before the storm' feeling in South Florida. Once basketball gets going again and starts getting coverage on all the major networks, the Heat are going to be front and center for a while.
Never before has Miami Heat training camp and preseason been a very big deal, but that is all going to change this month. As much as things have quieted down over the last month, you better believe that the Heat are going to be getting just as much attention as they were getting back in late June/early July.
Just thinking back to that time brings a smile to my face. Sure, a lot of that has to do with the end result...but just take a second and go over it all in your head. All the hype and buildup before July 1st. The attention that D-Wade was getting and all the speculation and worry when he was meeting with other teams (mainly the Bulls).
Then the awesomeness began when Wade and Bosh went live on ESPN, telling the world they were teaming up in Miami. Even though I stayed true to my belief that Wade was not going to leave the Heat and never waivered from that...I'll admit that I was literally jumping up and down in front of my TV when he and Chris Bosh announced that they were signing with the Heat.
It was exciting to see the both of them proclaiming their allegiance to our Miami Heat, but as we all know that was just the beginning. A few days later, in what I still say was a pretty douchey move, LeBron did his whole ‘decision' dance. A line that has been embedded in many people's brains from Dayton to Dade County could possibly be something that will change the face of the NBA for a long time; "I'm taking my talents to South Beach".
From that point it was just watching all the chips fall in our favor, with Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Big Z...the roster filled up with players who would fill the roles needed and compliment our superstars. There are still some places where the Heat can improve, but at that point it's going to look like an impressive fantasy basketball team.
We still have to see if Mario Chalmers is going to blossom into a Rajon Rondo-type point guard or if he'll just continue on the path that we've seen him go down for the past two seasons. At this point, the Heat's point guard situation isn't too impressive because both of our main guys are a little banged up.
Chalmers has spent the summer rehabbing from a high ankle sprain that he suffered during team workouts in early July. He is officially listed as questionable for the start of training camp, which is on Tuesday the 28th. I'd love to know what Pat Riley and Erik Spoelstra's expectations are for Rio this season...but unfortunately that's just one of those truths that will never be told to the public.
Of course the ‘joke' is that you could put anyone in Chalmers' shoes and they would average double digit assists, and I think my favorite idea is having a different fan getting to play the point every game. With that being the case, should Chalmers not have a good year then does he begin to slide into the ‘bust' category?
Judging from what we've seen from Rio and the skill set that he has continued to develop, I think he'll be ok. Recognizing where and when to dish the ball will be key, and one of the most important things for anyone on the team not named Wade, James or Bosh will be to hit open shots. The sooner Chalmers gets healthy the sooner he'll be able to work with these guys and sharpen his skills.
Miami's other point guard is also nursing an injury. Carlos Arroyo suffered a deep bruise in his left quadriceps while participating in the World Championships and had to sit out his team's final four games. Arroyo injury came during Puerto Rico's first game, which was against Russia. He took a knee to his hip area that caused him internal bleeding.
There was a chance that he could still have played later in the tournament had Puerto Rico made it out of the opening round. He should be ok for Training Camp but I'm still waiting for confirmation from the team, which probably wont come out until he shows up at the AAA sometime in the next week or so.
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I think Rio will blossom if the Heat commit and show confidence in him.
All he really needs to concentrate on are minimising turnovers and improving his man defence.
He already shoots a pretty decent fg% for a pg – I think it would be a complete success for him to average double digit points (around 10-12) with 4-5 assists, a few steals and (the most important) less than 2 to’s a game.
There is no way he can get averages like Rondo – there is only one ball, as long as he is maximising opportunities, minimising mistakes and executing well he should remain the starter for years…
"Great effort springs naturally from great attitude" - Pat Riley
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"You show me one team, one GM, one person, one organization that wouldn't jump at the opportunity to take a Chris Bosh, a LeBron James, a Dwyane Wade together, and I'll show you a liar." - Dwyane Wade
Thanks for the Rio update
As a lifetime player, I was wondering how he was doing – those severe high ankle sprains can linger for months…
To me, his focus should be defensive – no need for scoring in double figures.
by nba is the worst on Sep 7, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions
So right!!!
His man defense is really all I worry about. Keeping the turnovers down would be nice, too. He is not Rajon Rondo and never will be. But he can still be an effective guard in this league.
1+3+6=how many rings???
I like Chalmers but...
I dont see him growing much more in this league. Now this is only my opinion but he has been given the opportunities. At some times he has shown flashes but i just dont see it holding long term. Dont get me wrong, i really like Rio and i want him to do better, but ill just have to see it on the court.
More than anything i want to see his man D improve greatly. Hes a streaky shooter and as long as he can keep himself under control and minimize his mistakes he can be ok. He should get tons of open shots this year, ala Damon Jones of a few years ago, but we’ll see how this great lineup does for him. I hope he improves.
But if he does improve im skeptical only because if he really improving? or is he just looking that way because of who he is on the court with? We have had plenty of guys who have left because they looked really good playing with Wade and Shaq (open shots) and then took the contracts elsewhere and fell off (Kapono).
Go big or go home
Rio is a back up
He shouldn’t be a starter in the nba. Hope can hit his open shots. i want Miller to start.
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
it's not like the heat need a traditional PG anyways
wade/LBJ will have the ball at all times, so the “PG” just has to wait in the corner for an open 3.
3 Heat can't stop the 3peat.
So do you agree with sparker?
I’m not as impressed with LeBron’s ball-handling as others, I guess – and although I think if Miller starts the team would be better offensively, I question where points would come from on the bench in that rotation.
Actually, it’s an interesting dilemma – Heat fans seem to think that Spoel will always have one of the Triofive on the court, which can only mean lots of minutes.
Who can score dependably off the bench other than Miller, and at a lower level, Haslem?
by nba is the worst on Sep 8, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
If one is always on the court
then they can each play less than 36 minutes. They will each play fewer minutes than last year. Anyway, why are you on every NBA blog with a screen name like that? Go away dude. Get a life or get a team or get a favorite sport and stick with it.
It will be surprising if they play less minutes than last year
Why do I use this screen name?
It’s a dig against the NBA’s corrupt officiating.
Why does it bother you???
by nba is the worst on Sep 8, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
first the minutes issue:
They will play less minutes because having LBJ on the court means that D-Wade can come out of the game with 3 or 4 minutes left in the first quarter instead of 45 seconds. Then instead of James coming in two minutes into the 2nd quarter, he can come in 6 minutes into it becuase D-Wade would be on the court. Bosh can fill in whatever gap he has to. The reason James and Wade played 39 and 38 minutes respectively 2 years ago is because as soon as they would leave the game their unreliable teams would nose dive. Whenever you only have one good player on your team he has to play major minutes. Kobe played 41 minutes the year before Pau got there, and 36 the next. That is a well known fact of the NBA. Do you watch Basketball?
So you think this team's bench will be "reliable"?
Watch those double-digit leads get cut when only 1 or two of the Triofive are on the court…
by nba is the worst on Sep 10, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
The Heat won games last year with only 1 of the 3 on the roster last year
All the sudden we are gonna suck because all of them aren’t on the court?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 10, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said (you're) "gonna suck"?
I said the leads generated by the starters will get cut due to the bench being overmatched vs most teams, which Nate P said won’t happen now since the Heat have 3 good players compared with (apparently, based on his post, last year’s “unreliable teams’ nose dives”).
The issue of limiting regular season minutes will affect the number of Heat wins IMO…
by nba is the worst on Sep 11, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
on a serious note:
I don’t see that many teams with stronger benches. The blazers maybe. How can you say that Wade and scrubs is not better than another team’s 5 scrubs.
But the other thing is, the heat have 3 legitimate career 40% 3pt FG guys coming off the bench (House, Jones, Miller). A center who played 20 minutes per game for a 60 win team last year (Z). Haslem, who is more than serviceable as a 6th man is going to be the 7th or 8th. I think any realistic and honest evaluation of the bench will show that this group can at least keep up with other benches, especially if you have Wade or James leading them.
Lastly, you haven’t explained why Wade, for example, would play more minutes than last year when he played 36 per with no help at all. Bosh had no back up last year and now has Haslem (who Dallas offered 5 years and 30+ million) to play some of his minutes would certainly play fewer minutes, right? Please try to address each paragraph.
You crack me up...
1st paragraph:
Wade isn’t a bench player, so why do you include him (twice) in a discussion of bench strength? And since many of the bench players return from last season when, according to your 3rd paragraph, he had “no help at all”, how can you say by adding over the hill castoffs like Z and Juwan Howard and whoever else they don’t cut to get to 15 makes the bench strong?
2nd paragraph:
House is a career 39% 3pt shooter at age 32 coming off his worst offensive season where he shot just 38% FG overall, and 34.5% from three. He’s always been a poor defender, and with his age, that’s not likely to improve.
Miller is arguably the best bench player the Heat have – IF he doesn’t start, as many have been speculating.
James Jones? If he’s so good, why didn’t the Heat play him more than 76 games in 2 seasons, and only about 15 min pg? It might have something to do with his shooting percentage overall being lower than his 3pt shooting, or that strong 4.1 ppg average…
Z is 35 and injury prone, and had his worst season ever (disregarding the 5-gm year) in every stat except 3pt shooting (he only took 23 attempts in 64 games), and he’s too slow to mesh with the starters or effectively defend.
I can’t disagree about Haslem, unless Miller does start and/or Anthony can’t cut it as a starter forcing him into the role…
3rd paragraph:
The Heat can’t afford to ignore the importance of HCA in the playoffs, so they need to rack up wins.
What position did Amir Johnson play (in all 82 games) for the Raptors last season? Backup PF – as did Reggie Evans.
Time will tell, but many INCLUDING YOU have reasoned that at least one of the Triofive will always be on the court to try to compensate for the bench’s weaknesses. Bosh will likely play minutes at the 5, due to the hole there. LeBron will be trying to average that triple double the Heat fans are talking about, which will take a lot of minutes.Wade’s backup is Eddie House – pretty noticeable dropoff there.
Sounds like they will play the same or more minutes to me, or risk losing HCA.
by nba is the worst on Sep 11, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, I see now we won't agree
on this one. I included wade twice to make the same point, which was that he or James will be there to help the second unit. I should have substituted James’ name for Wade’s one of those times, but I thought you would have made that connection. I think you are underestimating what this team can do and you are plainly lying to yourself to assume that these guys will play more minutes.
But listen, click on my name on hothoops.com blogs to get to my blog and you can leace me a note to claim $1000 if any of your predictions come true regarding minutes and I’m assuming you’re one of those thinking that they will not be better than last year’s 47 wins. I will western union the money to any city you like. In fact, by the allstar break both of these issues will be answered. You can put whatever you want where your mouth is. But I will settle for you not trolling heat blogs anymore if you turn out to be right,
So, if Wade or James "will be there to help the second unit"....
…please tell me how that will lead to them playing less minutes.
You wrote that you “don’t see that many teams with stronger benches”. Then you contradicted that statement with the starters being necessary to “help”.
All I’m saying is there’s a tradeoff with the Heat’s roster between limiting starters’ minutes and number of wins. How Spoel/Riley handle it remains to be seen.
With regard to your “challenge”:
I’ll just quote David’s words from the article titled "Miami Heat 2010-11 season previews….PIM Edition ".
“It’s all good to disagree but please be mature and respectful when doing so”…
by nba is the worst on Sep 12, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
why is my "challenge" not mature and respectful?
The things that would fit that discription are kept separate below. Everything i’ve said in this thread were on the up and up, so to speak. Now, are you declining my “challenge”? If you accept, i’ll hear from you around february. If you decline, I’ll know all I need to know about you and your convictions. Good luck either way.
your name doesn't bother me
I just think it’s stupid. I’m sorry because I never use profanity or insults on these blogs, but it had to be said. Why not use the name “NBA refs are the worst” or “Refs suck”?
I think you’re just one of “those guys”. By those guys i mean this: Male; Bald; likely white; lives with a relative (probably mother); unemployed (or making less than 20K/year); mad that atheletes are well paid (eventhough they generate a lot of money for the team); never made the team in highschool (eventhough you were a nice guy); probably a middleaged bachelor. Did I get you right? Please respond.
Your opinion is just that - I couldn't care less
Your ass-umptions are what is stupid – I’ve used this screeenname online since 2006, and am well-known in the NBA online community.
Apparently you missed my response on hothothoops.com,“8” – here’s the cut/paste:
8ofDiamonds Reply:
September 6th, 2010 at 10:13 am
If NBA is the worst, then why is it that your type are always on NBA blogs spewing hatred and nonsense. By your type I mean: Male, Short, Balding, Probably white, Makes less than $30K or unemployed, Thinks Atheletes shouldn’t get paid what they do irrespective of how much they generate for the team, Lives with a relative (most likely mother), and Never made the team in highschool eventhough you were a real nice guy, and "It’s" the world’s fauld no matter what "It" is. Did I get you right? Please respond.
[Reply]
nba is the worst Reply:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Wrong on all of your (stereotype) projections. Lifetime baller, was on the state championship high school team, live with my family (two teenage kids), have all my hair. I still play hoops 3-5 timews/wk.
I’m an NBA analyst and critic.
The screen name is intended as a dig at the corrupt officiating in today’s NBA, with All-time Finals records (such as Wade’s FT attempts in ’06, and Boston’s in game 2 ’08) impacting the outcomes.
It’s sad that this has cheapened the league, and caused many to believe the sport is tatamount to professional wrestling regarding its validity…
by nba is the worst on Sep 10, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
stop telling tales
I’m more sure now that I am right on about you. by the way, I forgot about that other post. But thanks for pasting the lame response. You’re just an unemployed troll.
Self-ownage at its best
It’s clear that your post was the one that was exposed !
by nba is the worst on Sep 11, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to believe...
By posting the BS you did about someone you don’t know, you proved you have some “issues”…
The psychiatric term for what you posted is “projection”. In projection, anxiety is reduced by claiming another person actually has the unpleasant thoughts that you are thinking. You are attributing your own repressed thoughts to someone else.
(Best wishes on you finding a job and getting a place of your own)…
by nba is the worst on Sep 12, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow. I guess doctor phil is in.
I’ll just have to believe what I believe and you can go on living with your mother, doc.
"Mature and respectful" - NOT
But you ARE consistent – and hilarious!
by nba is the worst on Sep 14, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree
all you have to do is look at game 7of this years nba final for proff theat the nba is the worst !
Lebron can play point
While his ball handling skills may not be the best, but he can blow by anyone at any time. then the only way to stop him is with some help. once the help comes he is a great passer.
Lets not forget about Wade who can blow by anyone and split double or triple teams with ease! And he likes to pass the ball to. And I would love them to be passing to miller or bosh. I dont know this for sure but my heat hater friends keep telling me bosh is the better shooter of the big three, my reply “and thats susposed to be a bad thing”
I think Lebron would love to play defense against the pg. he should be quick enuff to guard them and big enuff to scare or force them into bad passes which would lead to many fast breaks.
now for the points off the bench. WHO CARES!!!! JK well there is only one person who could possibly get double teamed BIG Z. Yea he is old and slow but on offense he is huge and would be playing against other backups as well. he is a good passer as well.
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
Hmm
Hopefully Rio blossoms this season.
Last season he started a few games and then Arroyo took over that role.
All in all Rio last season…7.1 ppg,3.4 assists and 1.2 steals while shooting 40% from the field and 31% from down town.
Now obviously Riley and co. see something in him and believe in him which is why he was not traded along with Cook.
His 3 point % has to go up.
Being that Mike Miller will likely enter the game within 5-7 left in the quarter I doubt Chalmers will average more than 8ppg, however if his 3 point % can go up to about 37% or higher, and if he can stop gambling on D,if he can keep his man in front of him then he will be fine.
Miami Thrice is incredible....Heat Tri-nasty is inevitable!
Hmm
Personally if I were the coach I would want Lebron to be the pg.
Bring that Magic Johnson back with more athleticism and a more powerful frame.
PG: LBJ
SG: Wade
SF: Miller
PF: Bosh
C: Joel Anthony
That would be the starting lineup if I were the coach, but that’s just me.
Miami Thrice is incredible....Heat Tri-nasty is inevitable!
I've seen this speculated, but...
I wonder if LeBron has what it takes to defend opposing PGs for a season…
And then the question of “where do bench points come from” arises.
by nba is the worst on Sep 8, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I love this lineup (I've said it for months), but I think coach Spo will go with a more traditional lineup (Chalmers).
Not really worried about the bench points because we are not going to have 1st and 2nd teams. One of the stars should be on the court at all times (except in blowouts)
For those still talking about size
There are only two dominant bigs in this league: D-12 and Pau. Every body else is in the same boat as the Heat (but they don’t have Wade and Bron); except maybe boston with all those old but big bodies and Houston with the always britle Yao. It’s already been proven that D-12 doesn’t have enough help to win it all, so the Lakers are the only team the heat have to worry about with respect to size. Now, whether you think they have an adventage at the other positions is up for debate I can admit that (but not really).
I love the title of this article “With training camp getting closer, questions still remain about the Heat at point guard”….its a covert way of saying “our point guards all suck”
Can we expect a post entitled “With training camp getting closer, questions still remain about the Heat at center” tomorrow? Cause they are horrible at center, too
IF the heat are able to come anywhere NEAR meeting the expectations set for them, they will probably be one of the weakest teams at both the 5 and 1 to ever win the title. Thank God they are good through their swing men, cause the bigs and pgs are pretty straight horrible, if we can be honest here (not sure)
Well said
Unless the Magic, Celtics, and Bulls in the east, and the Lakers in the west all have injuries, there’s no realistic chance for the Heat to win a title this season with this roster…
by nba is the worst on Sep 8, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
remember luc longley?
that dude sucked huevos grandes and some how the bulls managed 6 titles while having to match up against many great centers of all time—ewing, olajuwan, admiral, etc… you don’t need a star at EVERY position on the floor
jets suck!
by colinmc82 on Sep 10, 2010 1:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Longley was 7'2"
And his numbers per 36 minutes in his 1st 3 seasons significantly outpaced Anthony’s:
Longley 11.3 pts/ 9.3 rebs /2.3 blks
Anthony 5.6 pts/ 6.8 rebs/ 2.9 blks
by nba is the worst on Sep 10, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why I said weakest at 5 AND 1
And Luc was 3 times the offensive player Anthony (yes, I know that’s not why Anthony is out there, I’m just saying)
Ok if you are a new Heat fan
Then you would know nothing about Joel Anthony. Read my thread. I know he is not a great center and maybe wouldnt start on any other team but the man is a perfect fit for this team. when the season is over everyone will know about Joel trust me. He will protect the paint like ben wallace did for the pistons. As for point guard i have nothing to say. wait ok i got something, I know Arroyo is nothing special but he is a solid team player with no range, hopefully he works on it. he has been a average nba player but in international play when he has to be the man he is great!!!! He did lead Puerto Rico past the us not to long ago. And for you nba is the worst, there is to much money to be made for the Heat to win.
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
Did you watch him in FIBA for 0-5 Canada?
To put him in a sentence with Ben Wallace (other than discussing their height) is simply laughable.
Per 36 mins, Ben outrebounds him by 5.6 and outscores him by 1.7…
How many of his blocked shots have come vs 7 footers?
by nba is the worst on Sep 9, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Players don't get that many shots on their own man. The majority of blocked come from someone coming to help.
So, I don’t think Ben Wallace had many blocked shots on 7 footers either. With that being said, Wallace is a much better rebounder than Joel. But, I really don’t think it will be as much of a problem as critics say it will. Bosh is a very good rebounder, Lebron is a great rebounder (for his position), and Wade is one of the top rebounding guards in the league. So, Anthony will have a ton of help. Then you include Big Z, Magloire, and Haslem (all good rebounders). I will say that the Heat may encounter some trouble with LA and Orlando, but no one else. Also, Anthony does not score the ball, so it is very difficult for him to help team Canada win.
thank you #1heat fan
nba why didnt you mention blocks, is it because wallace averaged 1.2 in 28 min a game while anthony had 1.4 in 16 min a game. I bet he has more rebounds this year as a starter than big ben does. All i said his he will protect the paint and he will do it well.
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
Friendly Pistons fan here...
I’ve tried to read through the comments, but I’m left with a lingering question, particularly from the outsider perspective.
Specifically, do you expect that your starting PG will (or need to) actually handle the ball much? It would seem to me that James and Wade will initiate 90% of the offense between them, and you might even be better suited slotting a shooter like Mike Miller at “PG” to space the floor and knock down shots.
As an aside, kudos on the offeseaon of all offseasons. I can’t say I’ll be rooting for the Heat, but I’ll certainly enjoy watching them.
imo..No Heat fan should/will expect that our starting PG will(or need to) handle the ball much. We just “need” Chalmers or Mike Miller to start. They will space the floor and create driving room for either Wade and James (which would probably cry “double team me” and then one of them will kick it out to an open player).
And thanks.
by The One Who Wears The Crown on Sep 9, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
welcome
Whoever plays point guard will basically just be spotting up from 3 to space the floor. This is why I personally would rather Chamlers start because Arroyo does not have 3 pt range. Miller would be great in the starting lineup, but I think Coach Spo will go with a more traditional lineup
if Wade and the Titos can go to the playoffs...
then Wade, LeBron, Bosh and the Titos can go to the finals. and win.
jets suck!
by colinmc82 on Sep 10, 2010 1:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
TWO WORDS:
JASON WILLIAMS. PAT HAD HIS CHANCE FOR THE MOST POTENT – HIGH FLYING OFFENSE IN THE WORLD AND PASSED. EVEN D WADE WANTED HIM HERE. PAT’S ONLY POOR MOVE.
by Metro Dade Vice on Sep 10, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
couldn't afford him
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 10, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
that is true
I thought he had signed for a bigger deal, my bad.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 11, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, aren't his knees pretty shot?
I seem to remember him not being able to practice at all for like the final 5 months of the 05-06 Championship run…He was effective enough in games (on offense, at least). I don’t really recall about him having the practice issues with Orlando, but I wasn’t paying the same sort of attention to that team…maybe his year out of basketball helped his knees a lot
Again with J.Will
Yes he is one helluva player but we didn’t/don’t really need him.
Why you mad?
by The One Who Wears The Crown on Sep 11, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
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