LeBron isn't hated just for the "Decision" OR The Splinter in my mind!
This fanpost isn't the greatest attempt at being objective nor is it just spewing jealous hatred at the Miami Heat, but I think it is how most of the NBA fans feel about the "South Beach Situation"! I must give a full disclosure at this time before you read any further....I am a lowly Washington Wizards fan who begrudges LeBron for his supreme talent but only because I love watching NBA basketball and root for my team relentlessly! I want to give some perspective to all who will listen on the reason I think everyone hates LeBron and the whole Heat team.....and it may not be what you think! Jump
Here is a small sample of things that I've read or heard in the unlimited media that make people question the legitimacy of the Miami Heat's intentions..
1. Made a secret arrangement during the Olympics. This is a lot of hearsay, but the rumor and innuendo started here...
2. Pat Riley arranging the Heat roster to dump all contracts....:
"Miami is expected to dump 10 contracts this summer, giving the team plenty of cap space to sign two maximum contracts and possibly a third All-Star if it can somehow unload Michael Beasley’s contract to another sucker… I mean another team." http://www.onemanfastbreak.net/tag/pat-riley/ The one thing I can say is it would be business suicide to dump all contracts if you didn't have absolute assurances that you can bring a certain someone's "talents to South Beach" along with Wade and Bosh!!
3. Chris Bosh gives up in Toronto to ensure clean break from Raptors...
http://dimemag.com/2010/07/did-chris-bosh-quit-on-toronto/ Not a big deal to me but all leading to the assumption that the Miami Thrice was already in the works!
4. LeBron feigning interest in going to NY to cover intentions of going to Miami... I can't even count how many stories about Lebron going to NY I've read or how many times he wore a stupid Yankees hat! All a smokescreen!
5. LeBron has an arm injury and loses playoff games against Celtics... This one I have a hard time believing myself, but for someone who is a physical scorer and pretty good shooter Lebron still did both really well.....until the end of games when he couldn't make a shot or dribble a ball (not even a crab dribble) without turning it over...http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/09/did-lebron-quit-on-cavs-in-the-playoffs/
6. D.Wade,LeBron, and Bosh go on the Magical Mystery Tour claiming to look at their options... http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=5229374 I think the only place they didn't go and interview teams to play for is the Turkish team Allen Iverson is playing for now!
7. The Decision is the ultimate smoke screen to deflect what is really happening...
"They wonder how he decided to announce he would honor Michael Jordan by giving up the number '23' this season, then joining the only team in the league other than Chicago that had retired '23.' They wonder how James and Wade and Bosh had talked for years about joining forces on the same team. How the three met in Akron a couple of weeks prior to the start of free agency and talked about where they could be together. How James met with Pat Riley of the Heat in November. How Bosh said at that rally in Miami that the two had talked for "months" about playing together, then quickly corrected it to say days". http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/12/cleveland-fumes-over-lebrons-process-not-decision/
8. Pat Riley orchestrate the biggest travesty in the League since the Lakers stole (was given) Pau Gasol and the Celtics were given Garnett and Allen without giving up Pierce.
"The only way all three players could "choose" the Heat is if the Heat had enough cap room to accommodate all three players. Lo and behold, the Heat did.The Heat managed to trade Michael Beasley for basically nothing. Beasley was the second pick in the draft two years ago, and they gave him away. For all of their other players, they made sure all of their contracts expired at the end of the 2010 season except, of course, for Mario Chalmers.Had none of these players chosen the Heat, Miami would have had the worst team in NBA history on tap for the 2010-2011 season. Quite a risky move for Pat Riley and the rest of his executive team.
Unless, of course, there was no risk involved.
Mike Greenberg of ESPN was asked this morning if he thought LeBron really made up his mind Thursday morning. Greenberg said, "No. I think he knew where he was going to go two years ago."
"I think the players agreed to do this back in 2007 and 2008. I think that's why LeBron gave up in the playoffs last year, why Miami completely gutted their roster, and why the Heat have been madly trying to dump Beasley for weeks." http://bleacherreport.com/articles/417864-nba-should-launch-tampering-investigation-of-miami-heat
What's really wrong with everything that I pointed out above? Most of the things addressed out in this list are possibly just here say and sour grapes... What really is the problem?
It's the premeditation and not just between the players! And race is what not what stinks here! I get tired of the race card, there may be some racial issues but that not what's bothering the majority of fans and pundits... It was the Heat management and the elite players that came together and secretly arranged to create a superteam that's unmatched since the 80s Lakers! The precedent has been set, all the elite players could now want the same thing for themselves.... A league of 4-5 super teams and 25 horrible teams doesn't sound so thrilling to me, no wonder Stern is talking contraction!
So, what is "the splinter in my mind?" It's not the "Decision", that was just obnoxious!
it's COLLUSION!!! It's the fact that Riley and the Heat along with LeBron, Wade and Bosh circumvented the salary cap structure (it's not made to sustain 3 near-max players, just imagine if LeBron goes down with a significant injury, can you say 10 day contracts) and signed together to the detriment to the league(consolidating the best players in one place instead of spread across the league)!!! AND David Stern and the league allowed it to happen! Why, probably because of the enormous amount of money to be made!!!!
This is the first time in my 20 years of watching NBA ball that I'm so angry that I didn't want to watch, but I know I will, just like everyone else............
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So much fail
So when Dennis Rodman joined Jordan and Pippen in Chicago, that wasn’t a “super team”? Did the Lakers cicumvent the salary cap structure wehen they added Karl Malone and Gary Payton to Shaq & Kobe?
“Free Agent” means “free to play wherever you choose”. For some reason, people seem to think it means “you must resign with your original team, or else go play in New York or LA”.
That part that will forever crack me up about this is that every sports fan in America spends some part of his life whining about greedy players who value money over winning, and when a guy leaves millions of dollars on the table to maximize his chances of winning, they complain that he values…..I don’t know – winning over money?
The contraction stuff from Stern is just a load of BS. The Wizards sold for $550 million, Golden State for $450 million. If these teams were such horrible investments, why do brilliant billionaire businessmen fall all over themselves to buy them? League revenue increased last year, and they are probably making way more money than they will ever reveal.
If race isn’t a factor, then why do the (mostly minority) players get blamed for big contracts, instead of the (mostly white) owners who agree to pay them, or the (mostly white – esp in the arena) fans who shell out the $$$ in the first place? Honestly, I think it is much more of a class issue than a race one, but in this country the two often go hand in hand.
I get why people hate LeBron. “The Decision” was a stupid, ego-driven mess. He is better at what he does than almost anyone, ever, and that always creates envy. He could have gone anywhere, and he picked Miami, so every non-Miami fan is now missing out on him helping their team. So yeah, he is going to get a lot of hate, some of it even warranted.
But don’t try to make it into something it isn’t. Tom Brady isn’t hated because the Patriots were videotaping signals; he is hated because he was beating 29 other teams’ brains in, banging supermodels, and living a life most of us couldn’t even dream of. Same goes for every other dominant athlete – LeBron managed to intensify this with that stupid half-hour special, but none of this is unique to LeBron, or even unusual.
Only difference between astronauts and old folks bein' that you never see one astronaut spoon feedin' dollar chilli to a worse-lookin' astronaut at Wendy's
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Oct 29, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
AGREED
Totally agree with you. I think people just keep trying to find reasons to dislike him. One minute they hate him for the whole “Decision” thing and the next it’s something he said in the media or he let the city of Cleveland down, or he has big ego. Duh, what superstar doesnt have a big ego? Even with his “big ego”, to this day, he still doesnt disrespect anyone in the media nor does he demand their respect like other athletes do. I’m sorry but it’s stupid. And so what if they did decide to try to play together years ago they were free agents. They don’t owe anything to any city but to try to win games for them(which he did) b/c once they’re traded to another team the city stops cheering for them anyway. I have mixed feelings about the whole “Decision” spectacle, but the season has started and it’s time to get over it, what’s done is done. He’s doing what he’s paid to do: win games and entertain, and this is why I’m still a fan of his. I’m not a Kobe fan, but had he did this years ago I would defend him as well.
I do agree he could of made the situation better by telling the team when he made up his mind and skipping the whole tv show. But, why is it ok for owners to trade players to teams without consulting them until the deal has been made and they have no choice, but it’s such a big issue when players decide to this on their own?
The players have the ability to go where they want but..
…teams cannot make secret arrangements with said players to unfairly stack their team! That is supposedly against the rules, when teams make trades they have the constraints of the salary cap to keep thing on a even playing field!
As “nba is the worst” says, knowledgeable fans understand this!!!!
"I get buckets, son!" Big Oily
"...I was supposed to go broke on that hand! Except they forgot one thing:
I CAN DODGE BULLETS, BABY" Phil Hellmuth
The problem with this is he DIDN'T try to win in games 4-6 vs the Celtics
Which is why knowledgeable fans lost all respect…
by nba is the worst on Nov 6, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions
why is it that all this talk about Lebron throwing games began only after he decided to join the Heat?
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
Not true
It started DURING game 5, when the announcers pointed out LeBron’s lack of effort.
Remember?
(Fans with bball knowledge who have followed LeBron’s career saw it clearly in game 4).
by nba is the worst on Nov 10, 2010 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
Talk about "fail"
The author is talking about collusion. There is no way this could have occurred without Pat Riley being in on it to set up all that cap space. Completely different than Rodman to the Bulls, or (over the hill) Malone and Payton to the Lakers.
Even if Stern wanted to, he couldn’t prove anytrhing from the hints the players put forth – like the Bosh misstatement posted above, and remember Wade posted on Twitter that "he’d like to start a website called “if only they knew.com.” Wade/Bosh have the same agent…
I agree contraction talk is a smokescreen – what owner is going to agree to be voted off the island?
And to most savvy fans not from NE Ohio, LeBron hasn’t done anything in terms of winning worth hating him for, and his countless displays of ridiculous ego and vanity pale in comparison to his tanking the Celtics series as far as “reasons to hate” go…
by nba is the worst on Oct 30, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
I'm shocked such a rational response was given....
….I think if a similar post was written about the Wizards on Bullets Forever Blog, it would have been destroyed as hate-mongering garbage….. even my poll question opinions are evenly spread between agreement and disagreement…. I’m not really sure what to think about it…..
"I get buckets, son!" Big Oily
"...I was supposed to go broke on that hand! Except they forgot one thing:
I CAN DODGE BULLETS, BABY" Phil Hellmuth
by WhiteBoy-4-3 on Oct 31, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
HOW DARE PAT RILEY PLAN AHEAD!
Its like he is a great GM or something!!
2009 NY Phin PhansFantasy League Champion
2009 Best Regular Season Record in NYPPL.
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
""It only ends once. Everything that comes before is just progress"
GMs can't make secret pacts with players...
It against the NBA’s rules…..Minnesota lost several years of draft pick over their secret deal with Joe Smith!
But then again, Riley got away with it, so I guess he is a great GM!
"I get buckets, son!" Big Oily
"...I was supposed to go broke on that hand! Except they forgot one thing:
I CAN DODGE BULLETS, BABY" Phil Hellmuth
by WhiteBoy-4-3 on Nov 7, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm..
they all signed the same extension, except for melo.. they could have gone to ANY team TOGETHER.. EVERYBODY knew when their contract was over.. yet Pat was the only one that did anything he could to lure all 3.. why didnt Dan Gilbert and Dan Ferry try the same?? or Bryan Colangelo.. The difference is Pat has history of putting a team around his star players (04-06 with 06 being are lone championship)… Pat made it clear from day one he had a plan and it was to try to sign top tier free agents.. he put the true heat fans on the edge of their seats, he didnt do the amar’e trade for that reason he didnt sign players past 09-10 season for that reason we know that cause we live here.. we saw couple years of dwade’s prime go to waste, yeah he took us to the playoffs but we knew we werent gonna win.. Now put your self in Bron’s and Bosh’s shoes.. out of class of 03 draft only Wade has won a ring thanks to Pat.. your an All-World Talent.. the Miami Heat has a GM with track record of winning ( Laker’s 80, Knicks 90’s as well as the Heat) the same team is the only team with sufficent money to sign YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS, now you tell me, you wont go to Miami for those reasons.. now you wanna add the city features?? our winter is 50 degrees , compare to toronto and akron?? where our woman are in bikini and looking fine!! and the club scene is one of the best and “party’s dont stop till the next afternoon” AGE of Lebron 25, Bosh 26, and Wade 28.. i mean im 23 and i party hard here with money.. imagine those foold with the millions in there pockets.. only other city i think i would rather be in is LA or San Diego.. i mean maybe i am blind and being a homer but thats how i see it
Miami had its "Big Three" once, it just wasnt BIG enough to beat the Michael Bulls
PG. Devin Harris
SG. Caron Butler
SF. Kevin Durant
PF. Lamarcus Aldridge
C. Elton Brand
*without money
Miami had its "Big Three" once, it just wasnt BIG enough to beat the Michael Bulls
PG. Devin Harris
SG. Caron Butler
SF. Kevin Durant
PF. Lamarcus Aldridge
C. Elton Brand
Gilbert and Ferry couldn't, because ...
…They had built a team around LeBron, signing players which had yielded the best record 2 years straight, and that was the overwhelming favorite to win the title at the start of the playoffs.
Fascinating how LeBron led the team to that game 3 blowout in Boston (biggest playoff defeat at home in their long history), and then could only manage 5 pts in the 4th Q of a 74-72 game in game 4, and 15 pts in game 5…
by nba is the worst on Nov 9, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
How were they the overwhelming favorite?
There is no chance that they were better than the Lakers. Just look at the players on each team. Lebron and Kobe cancel eachother out, then comes Pau or Mo Williams. Call me crazy, but I am taking Pau. Lamar or Varejao? Lamar wins. Jamison or Artest? This one is close, but I would want Artest. Shaq or Bynum? This is also close, but give me Bynum (a better defender). Do you really think the Cavs were favorites over the Lakers or do you just hate Lebron that much?
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
Only 1 analyst picked the Celtics - remember?
Skip Bayless.
Go back and look – almost all the talking heads/ESPN writers picked the Cavs to win the title.
The Cavs were rolling, had HCA throughout, led by the back-to-back MVP, and the Cavs had handled every competitor of note during the regular season (including sweeping the Lakers and at worst splitting with the other teams – which would result in winning in 7 games due to HCA).
With an injured Kobe and Bynum and it being a road series for the Lakers, why shouldn’t the Cavs have been favored?
(Like they were)?
by nba is the worst on Nov 10, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
^^^^ i concur!!
no gilbert and ferry didnt plan to sign any other true all-star in their prime, during free agency.. Pat did.. they only hope for the best, ,and that lebron would have stayed, and didnt prepare for the worse, what if he left, thats the problem.. miami had money to sign other player if dwade would have left..so pat actually but us in a good place with or with out wade..
Miami had its "Big Three" once, it just wasnt BIG enough to beat the Michael Bulls
PG. Devin Harris
SG. Caron Butler
SF. Kevin Durant
PF. Lamarcus Aldridge
C. Elton Brand
if wade,bosh and Lebron signed elsewhere...
…who would they have signed with all that cap room? That is the crux of all the Heat hate! There wasn’t anyone of any consequence available, Riley and the Three had it all planned out!
"I get buckets, son!" Big Oily
"...I was supposed to go broke on that hand! Except they forgot one thing:
I CAN DODGE BULLETS, BABY" Phil Hellmuth
by WhiteBoy-4-3 on Nov 10, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
i get you there, and you maybe right
if NY didnt have Curry’s contract they would have been in the same situation as the heat.. now who would you trust as a player to build a contender Walsh or Riley??
Miami had its "Big Three" once, it just wasnt BIG enough to beat the Michael Bulls
PG. Devin Harris
SG. Caron Butler
SF. Kevin Durant
PF. Lamarcus Aldridge
C. Elton Brand
I would definitely want Riles....
…,he would stop at nothing to win! I remember watching the Knicks play football on the court for years, all Riley’s doing…. I want to be honest though, if the same scenario happened in D.C. I would be all for it! Big Three and all the hype and jerseys and drinking all the kool-aid!!!! But I would know in the back of my mind that it wasn’t right and probably not sustainable under the salary cap rules! That is the “Splinter in my mind”, most people can’t put their finger on what is wrong with the Heat, is it the decision or they hate Lebron, etc… they don’t really know! In reality they took the shortcut and it will probably bite them in the butt! The Heat better hope that no one get seriously hurt or it will get ugly fast! And believe me Mike Miller is not the answer, I’ve saw enough of him last year to last a lifetime! Anyway, thanks for the entertaining back and forth….
"I get buckets, son!" Oleksiy Pecherov
"...I was supposed to go broke on that hand! Except they forgot one thing:
I can dodge BULLETS, baby" Phil Hellmuth
by WhiteBoy-4-3 on Nov 12, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Now he complains about his minutes???
Classic. Trying to get his coach fired by saying that BS to the media.
And as usual, it makes him look stupid (what does he ever say that doesn’t), since when he joined this team, he should have known coming in that he would play over 40 in some games simply because of the thin roster and inevitable injuries (and at 25, as one of the highest-paid stars in the game, not too much to ask)…
Even more ridiculous by a review of his minutes last season:
Game 1 Boston 44:55 Loss
Game 75 @ Boston 44:32
In between, he was over 43 minutes in 11 games, and over 42 in 16 more…
by nba is the worst on Nov 13, 2010 10:16 AM EST reply actions
Should have said "over 40 in 16 more"
by nba is the worst on Nov 13, 2010 10:17 AM EST reply actions
LBJ has averaged 40 minutes a game since joining the NBA.
He just can’t play that many in the Heat or Miami versus the cold of Cleveland.
"Teams are making adjustments to us, it’s not the other way around," Smith said. "Right after (the Heat) signed LeBron and Bosh, they went out and signed eight centers. So I’m not overly concerned."
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Nov 16, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions

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